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| steve101 |
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 Registered Member #461
Joined: Friday 13 August 2010 - 05:19:55Posts: 7 |
Great site. I travelling from Ireland to Slovenia for a week fishing on the 7th September, staying in Bled. I was in Tolmin for a week last year, I did a trip report for another forum povezava [link] if you want to take a look. The trip was fantastic, I caught marble trout, hybrids, adriatic grayling, huge rainbows. I'm wondering what type of flies I should be tying for my holiday. At the moment I'm tying hare's ear nymphs, pheasant tail nymphs, klinkhammers, cdc comparaduns, f-flys, griffiths gnats, cdc emergers, cdc & elks, elk hair caddis and a few streamers (wooly buggers, rabbit leeches and marabou streamers). I'll also be buying some local patterns once I get to Bled. Can anyone suggest any other flies I should tie? I'm thinking of getting a 3 day C&R license for the Sava and a 1 day license for the Radovna and then decide where to spend my last two days - does this sound like a good plan. Finally, on my last trip in May 2009 I caught very few fish on dry flies, almost all on nymphs - is the dry fly fishing good in September? If anyone has any questions about fly fishing in Ireland I'd be glad to try and answer them. Thanks Steve [ Edited Saturday 21 August 2010 - 18:06:36 ] |
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| Lech |
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Joined: Wednesday 02 April 2008 - 13:58:05Posts: 34 |
Hi Steve, Wrote a long reply but I managed to delete it so here I do a second try. First of all thanks for a nice report. I have not so much to tell you about the dryflies using in Slovenia because of the fact that I seldom fish with drieflies. I can admit that it is not my best method but then as you say also agree with the fact that there aren´t so much activity in my opinion but as I said it can depend on my lack of skill. Every trip I say to myself that I should spend more time on dryfly fishing and then it´s the same every time, high water or lack of feeding does that I use my heavy streamers. I fish exclusively with a olive green marabou streamer (Wolly bugger type) tied on 6-10 streamerhook with 3-4 mm tungstens beads as a head and weight. Depending on the circumstances I vary the amount of beads on every streamer. This fly combined with a fast sinking tip (long sinking part) with a #5 9 feet rod works for me. This really heavy flies that you describe and many locals use does not sute me but I always carry a few "projectiles" with me for the right moment. With my combination I can fish pretty deep and cast pretty normally and works good on Soca and Idrijca and even on Trebusica where I by the way have caught my biggest Marmoratas. The fish you could not take a photo of was it a Marmorata? I will be in Tolmin 4-11 of september so we could be in contact if you want infi about the conditions in Soca and Idrijca and you could inform me about Sava and Radovna that I never been on despite visting Slovenia dozen of thimes. Best regards from Sweden Lech |
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| steve101 |
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Joined: Friday 13 August 2010 - 05:19:55Posts: 7 |
Hi Lech thanks for the info. Last year I caught some of the biggest trout on streamers. So this year I'm bringing a 6# and a fast sink tip (Teeny) with some very heavy streamers (rabbit leeches with lots of lead and tungsten eyes) so I'll be fishing similar to you if I need to. But usually I prefer dry fly fishing so hopefully I'll get some surface action. The trout I couldn't take a photo of was a rainbow in beautiful condition, definately not a marmorata. PM me your email and I'll let you know how I'm getting on on the Sava/Radovna. I'll also do a report a put a link here. Steve |
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| MikeL |
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Joined: Sunday 13 May 2007 - 00:31:00Posts: 139 |
Hi Steve, I caught some nice fish along grassy banks and riffles using a foam hopper and ant the last time I was there in September, including a very nice marmorata of about 50cm. Like you, however, I have never really seen the fish free rising heavily on insect hatches - regardless of what time of year Ive been there. Mike |
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| steve101 |
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Joined: Friday 13 August 2010 - 05:19:55Posts: 7 |
Hi Mike any chance of a link to a photo/step by step of the type of foam hopper you're talking about. Never tied/used one of them before. Steve |
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| MikeL |
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Registered Member #162
Joined: Sunday 13 May 2007 - 00:31:00Posts: 139 |
Hi Steve, Here is a tutorial for tying a Charlie Boy Hopper, which is basically the hopper pattern I fish most. povezava [link] The other pattern that caught me a few fish on top was a Chernobyl Ant. Here is one of mine (with a photo date just before the trip I was speaking of so it may have been the fly that took the larger marmorata).  These type flies arent much to look at, but they float all day and catch fish when the fish are used to seeing terrestrials on the water. Cheers, Mike |
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| steve101 |
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Registered Member #461
Joined: Friday 13 August 2010 - 05:19:55Posts: 7 |
Thanks Mike will get some foam and rubber legs and start tying Steve |
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| MikeL |
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Registered Member #162
Joined: Sunday 13 May 2007 - 00:31:00Posts: 139 |
No problem, Steve. Here is a picture of that marbled trout (I honestly cant remember if it were caught on the hopper or one of the ants I posted, but I *think* it was caught on the ant):  Nymphing and streamer fishing has caught me both more and bigger fish on those Slovenian rivers, but, like you, I love the rise of a fish on a dry so this is certainly my most memorable. Cheers, Mike |
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| sampei |
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Joined: Friday 15 August 2008 - 18:49:55Posts: 24 |
Hi, Contrary to most fly fishers I spend most of my time fly fishing with dry flies during all the year. Probably I catch less and smaller fish then those who normally use streamers and nymphs but that’s the fishing I like. For me there is nothing like seeing a nice trout o grayling slowly rising from the bottom of the river, drifting for a while just beneath your fly and than finally take it. Those few seconds are what fresh water fly fishing is all about for me. I know that there are weather/river conditions when it is almost impossible to get a bite on a dry fly and I also know that fish take most of their food on the bottom but I can’t do nothing. Actually I also have a lot of nymphs in my fly boxes and would like to give them a go but it always ends up in the same way….I choose the dry fly and as far as I can remember I caught just one grayling and probably a couple dozen of trouts on nymphs in whole my life. As far as your flies selection concerns my opinion is that you’re “well armed”. Also MikeL’s suggestion of taking some big terrestrial with you (grass hoppers, ants, other kind of bugs,…) is very good. Always have some of them with you and try them right along the banks under the trees and other vegetation. You could never know what will rise on your fly from there even in a warm sunny day!!! I would recommend to have with you also some old fashioned palmer pattern like the bivisible for example. It always works great for me. I noticed you have a lot of flies tied with CDC. I love it and use it very often when I tied my flies but take with you also a good amount of tradition dry fly patterns, those with legs and wings made out of hackle. Colors that work great for me on rivers you mentioned are: lite olive body/dun hackle, grey body/grizzly hackle, black body and hackle, brown quill body/brown or dun hackle. These are the combination I use most. Also bring with you some small and medium stoneflies (in dark colors, brown and black) and some sedges. September fishing could be very good although it is hard to say since the weather in last years is very unpredictable. Anyway there should be more water, it should be cooler and so the fish should be more willing to play the game. I hope my reply will be helpful and if you need something else just ask. Have fun Cheers, Sampei |
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Registered Member #461
Joined: Friday 13 August 2010 - 05:19:55Posts: 7 |
Sampei Thanks for that very comprehensive reply - the colours for dry flies are very useful. Do you know of any good small stonefly patterns that would be useful. I too much prefer fishing with dry flies but I'll fish with nymphs or streamers if necessary. Cheers Steve |
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| sampei |
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Registered Member #326
Joined: Friday 15 August 2008 - 18:49:55Posts: 24 |
Hi Steve, Here are two pics for you. It tie this flies in a very simple way. The only thigs you need is some kind of feathers (i often use those from peackocks wings, not tail, but you can use anything you have) for the bodies. You can also use some CDC and trim it. For wings I use some quill, one ore two per fly. And at the very end some hackle for legs. And that's all you need. You can tie those flies in several colors but those that I use mostly are black and brown as I've altready told you.   Cheers, sampei |
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| steve101 |
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Registered Member #461
Joined: Friday 13 August 2010 - 05:19:55Posts: 7 |
Thanks Sampei will tie some of those, what size are they 14-16? Steve |
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| sampei |
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Registered Member #326
Joined: Friday 15 August 2008 - 18:49:55Posts: 24 |
Steve, those on the pics are tied on 18-20 hooks. Size 16 would be also good, 14 is to big for that pattern. On a 14 size hook you can tie somethig more realistic than those i show you. Robert |
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| steve101 |
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Registered Member #461
Joined: Friday 13 August 2010 - 05:19:55Posts: 7 |
Thanks Robert - very busy tying! steve |
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